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De ce moare tipa din November Rain???-2


#20 2007-09-05 09:32:58

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Re: De ce moare tipa din November Rain???

m-ati starnit si nu m-am abtinut sa caut pe net...si iata ce am gasit ca raspuns la aceeasi intrebare: http://carolinanavy.com/fleet2/f2/zkill … s/12.html.

Cum este destul de lung, iar eu sunt la servici...nu am apucat sa citesc. Sper totusi sa ne lamurim de acolo cat de cat. daca informatia nu e buna, imi cer scuze, nu am avut timp sa verific.

Sau aici gasiti sigur raspunsul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_Rain. de fapt are legatura cu linkul de mai sus.

mai pe scurt:

"November Rain" is based on the short story "Without You", by Del James this is stated at the end of the video, available in James' 1995 book The Language of Fear. That short story would have an obvious appeal to Axl Rose, as it describes the misery of a former multi-platinum blues-influenced rock star, now so drunk and drug-addled he never knows what day it is, who reminisces over an on-and-off-again relationship. He leaves this erstwhile girlfriend a telephone message, becomes concerned when she doesn't answer, and then goes to her apartment, kicking down her door to find she had just shot herself in the head while listening to his music.[citation needed]

The lyrics to "November Rain" do not discuss the suicide issue, only the tempestuous relationship. According to one interpretation, the lyrics are from a man to a former girlfriend, saying how the troubled times (the 'cold November rain') will not last forever, and that he is willing to give her time alone if she will come back to him.[citation needed] The video, on the other hand, follows the short story more closely, from love and life, through to death and the funeral of the bride. Although the video doesn't explain how the girlfriend died, it can be seen, by looking at the girlfriend in the casket, that there is a line down her face; that is, a mirror. This appears at the 7:21 mark in the video. Families of head-trauma victims, who want to have an open-casket funeral, can use a mirror reflecting the intact side of the face to make the deceased appear whole. It can therefore be inferred that, as in the short story, the girlfriend was shot in the head. This scene implies that Seymour shot herself. However, another (though much less popular theory) involves an early reference in which Axl walks alone at night, past a gunshop with an open door, which can be seen at the 5:36 mark in the video. Some view this scene as an indication that Axl was the shooter: the suicide/homicide ambiguity corresponds to the storied protagonist's guilt over precipitating the suicide. Many, however, just think the gun store was a reference to the band name, because of the florists' shop adjacent to the gun shop.[citation needed]Some think that Axl walking past the gun store is a metaphor; that he didn't physically shoot her, but he inspired/pushed her into killing herself. Others say it shows the gun store after she has visited, and that it is an indication that Axl is too late to stop her. A last theory is that the bride was killed on the wedding day during the "November Rain" storm that begins to fall at the reception. After a lightning strike, we see the bride's bouquet hits a casket in a slow-motion sequence. This may infer that she was struck by lightning and killed instantly

Povestioara despre care e vorba o gasiti in primul link.

Si cu asta, sper ca v-am edificat...:-D oricum, se pare ca explicatiile tot pe interpretari se bazeaza, asa ca...

Ultima oara a fost editat de nicolle_rox (2007-09-05 10:09:56)


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#21 2007-09-15 17:24:36

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Re: De ce moare tipa din November Rain???

am si eu o curiozitate asemanatoare. stiti clipul Aliciei Keys "You Don't Know My Name ? Ma uit mereu cu placere la clipul ala, azi de ex. l-am  revazut.. si mi-am amintit de problema mea smile . Va reamintesc  "povestea" : ea e kelnerita la un restaurant. el (negru) vine zilnic acolo si comanda specialitatea zilei si o cioco calda. ea face rost de nr lui, si il suna. se intalnesc intr-un club, daca am inteles eu bine (nu cred ca e doar in mintea ei intalnirea); cand revine el la restaurant, ea merge sa ii ia comanda, si ii arata ca stie deja ce vrea sa comande. ala se ridica repede si iese din restaurant. de ce ? ca eu nu pricep. aveti idee ? voi cum l-ati inteles ?

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#22 2007-09-15 18:51:38

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Re: De ce moare tipa din November Rain???

ca sa arate axel rose ca e baiat sensibil

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#23 2007-09-15 18:54:38

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Re: De ce moare tipa din November Rain???

adina84 eu cred ca e in capul ei convorbirea la telefon si intalnirea:))...
ori daca nu...sfarsitul e dinainte de intalnirea lor..pur si simplu l'au pus la sfarsit


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#24 2007-09-17 07:38:12

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Re: De ce moare tipa din November Rain???

adina84 a scris:

am si eu o curiozitate asemanatoare. stiti clipul Aliciei Keys "You Don't Know My Name ? Ma uit mereu cu placere la clipul ala, azi de ex. l-am  revazut.. si mi-am amintit de problema mea smile . Va reamintesc  "povestea" : ea e kelnerita la un restaurant. el (negru) vine zilnic acolo si comanda specialitatea zilei si o cioco calda. ea face rost de nr lui, si il suna. se intalnesc intr-un club, daca am inteles eu bine (nu cred ca e doar in mintea ei intalnirea); cand revine el la restaurant, ea merge sa ii ia comanda, si ii arata ca stie deja ce vrea sa comande. ala se ridica repede si iese din restaurant. de ce ? ca eu nu pricep. aveti idee ? voi cum l-ati inteles ?

pentru ca he didn't know her name smile

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